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February 2, 2016, 9:06 pm
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Ident: D02BC490B383
REBIRTH SYSTEM +more ideas - please read @ DEV

Is it possible to code a way to rook ones character and display an icon (like the enemy shield etc) above a character to show what level or prestige they are up to?

Example: Set level 350 for rebirth and you can go to an NPC and ask for a rebirth/reincarnation at which you get a bonus or be able to choose a permanent bonus.

IE:

- +2%damage
- +2%speed
- +1% MAX HP
- +200 soul points
- +6 natural regen/4s
- +2% skill rate

or a legendary weapon:

-Golden windforce(attk:71 +5%AS - still enchantable)
-Crystal Fleshtearer (+2 attack +2axe permanent + enchantable)
-Titanium Fist (+2 attack +2 club - enchantable)
-Perfect Soft Boots (+8 permanent regen +enchantable)

Or a rare deco Item or tokens or gold or whatever you want as a reward for rebirth.

Characters get rooked back to level 8 and keep all skills in exchange for a permanent unlock just like call of duty (prestige mode).

Once I get my mage level 400 what else is there to do? I can't pk anywhere cause someone posts in global "level 400 pk in xxx" and literally like 30 level 180's rock up for the exp so it makes high level characters kinda pointless except for war, which there aren't any...

make it so you can rebirth up to 5 times so people who like rpging have something to do.

Although Ive spent alot of time and effort and would prefer no reset, even I agree it's kind of needed for the good of the server. If you got RPGers telling you that it's time then maybe it's time.

Should do it properly this time and implement everything you want to cause I think the last one was rushed and half arsed under pressure.

Things to consider:

1) make a 3 way war possible.

2) get character trading working

3) Rebirth system?

4) implement 10% power so killing people is easier

5) Possibly make runes-ammunition wasteable so people cant take 5000 pots on a hunt. Make it so theres a ratio of 5:1 or 3:1 3-5 shots to a rune

6) Fuck private spawn off completely because it encourages anti social behaviour-increase Vip monster exp-expand vip and make it more expensive $$ wise over a 3 month period.

7)Lower exp rate @ 250 to 0.5 and to 0.2 @ 300, This would work well with a thought our rebirth system.

8) Add new bags and bring back stackable stats but at a lower total ie magic items have a max of 4 per stat but you can get 3+2 ml like the old ways but with an overall lower levelled population and increased power this would work well.

9)in refunding points; Just give back half of what people donated for. I think this is your main issue, refunding points because when you do then your income doesn't come back in so refund half points and give us new items to spend them on? maybe a Rare or Legendary orb that costs 1000 points (4orbs) and increases the chance of a legendary item instead of fucking MANA...its always mana or arm...

10) Implement guild wars that round off levels and stats but leaves EQ and costs tokens or money from each player to enter. IE minimum is 1000 tokens so each team has to give 1000 tokens to play and the money is given to winning leader upon completion of war which gives players an incentive to finish wars instead of backing out and leaving cause they are getting fucked up.

11) Limit houses to 1 per account from the start cause I seee theres alot of people who dont play but log in once a month to keep a house which is bullshit.

12) MP counter. Rps and Eks getting an estimated hour to next level, why cant you script something that shows how much MP till next magic level?

13)Pay your GM's and Tutors with in game items so they are on doing their jobs.

14)Upgrade loot of VIP creatures to account for a money loss from PS. PS is a cash cow and without it, most people would be broke so up loot for VIP (which is now more expensive to cover your cash flow for loss of PS)

15) Introduce umbral creation to make sick arse weapons better then donor so basically the best weaps in game but super hard to obtain. Obvious umbral creation isnt a thing in 8.6 but Im sure you can work something similar out which would be another objective for players. Maybe make it come from magical dusts which certain bosses or raids would naturally drop or players can break down rares to obtain them (cash cow for you)

These are just a few ideas for an overall better server and I do beleive if you implement this over the next year and let the server test the new stuff out and then do a reset we will be pumping back up around the 600-700-800?? mark of players?

A little server advertisment jsut before reset wouldnt go astray either.

You'd be giving the war mongers what they want
The rpgers what they want
You get an overall better product of quality
You get your cash flow back
Everyone is happy

Make it a challenge to get 300 cause everyone is now hunting and not in PS.
Everyone is overall stronger so pking is easier instead of 1 ek tanking 10 people.

Please consider for the sake of the children

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Last edited by Not existing character.; 8th Feb 2016 at 06:43:18.

February 3, 2016, 9:50 am
Rat
Join Date: Feb. 2016
Profession: Paladin
Level: 8
Posts: 3

:up: Greetings! Very, very good suggestion. :up:

I've seen this feature in other OTs and it's really great. It gives the players incentive to level-up and removes the "I won't war X, they're too high level". Screw the Balanced PvP mode, Rebirth ftw man.

But I beg you, if you ever add this feature (which you should asap) make a RESETT and:
-Fix Magic Find (700~ish% chance and I find 1-2 "good" rares/month.
-Decrease experience and loot gained inside Private Spawn. I've grown tired of seeing people farming PS 24/7 and getting really high level and really rich at the same time..
-Increase the cooldown to spawn a boss (atm 2 minutes, make it higher).

At the current state the server will most likely die before summer. Please add Rebirth system and RESET + consider what I said above. That would make Nox the best 8.6 OT and most likely reset wouldn't be needed ever again.

Thanks for reading

February 3, 2016, 2:54 pm
Giant Spider
Join Date: Jun. 2015
Profession: Druid
Level: 8
Posts: 200

I like the idea, but what about these people that brag about how the get 300 in a week adding 2% damage every week sounds way OP to me. It would need limitations of some sort.

NOXIOUS
Herbs&TibIa
February 3, 2016, 3:00 pm
Giant Spider
Join Date: Jun. 2015
Profession: Druid
Level: 8
Posts: 200

I didn't see the up to 5 times thing. now I like it even more. That is a reasonable limitation. You cant get to where Vegeta is screaming the power levels over 9000!!

NOXIOUS
Herbs&TibIa
February 3, 2016, 5:15 pm
Administrator
Join Date: Oct. 2011
Profession: Druid
Level: 200
Guild: Leader of Noxious Staff
Posts: 968

I typically see rebirth scripts on servers that are extremely high rates, it's not that common in real map servers.

I think the problem with rebirthing is that the rewards are usually either too good or not worth it. Would somebody really rebirth a level 350 5 times for 10% damage and 5% health? If we give a decent amount of stat bonuses for each rebirth then it'll create characters that are too powerful. Lets face it, anybody who gets level 350 over 5 times is using a bot. Whether or not they are AFK, they are going to get rebirths without much work, it just takes time. If skills and stats don't change and you get to keep your equipment then it's going to be quicker each time they do it.

If you gain a unique item or something then it also encourages people to open up a bunch of bots and their only purpose is to rebirth and farm them.

There is also the security risk for account sharers or players that get hacked. A lot of people seem to share accounts and it's impossible to steal characters from somebody if you don't have access to the registered email address. If you can rook a character into a tradable item then it could be possible to sell it off to an innocent player for tokens and get away with it.

I've considered a rebirth system a long time ago and worked on something but never completed it. Essentially you would turn your character into a voodoo doll which had a percentage of your stats and skills based off of your level and it had to be equipped in your arrow slot. The better the character that was sacrificed, the better the voodoo doll would be and you can only equip one at a time. I showed it off to staff but at that time it was only an idea and never a planned feature and had some problems.


I'm willing to consider some kind of rebirth system though. If high level players could post and give their opinions on whether or not they would do it and what kind of reward they would expect it would be appreciated.

GOD Deviance - support@noxiousot.com
February 3, 2016, 6:26 pm
Rat
Join Date: Apr. 2015
Profession: Druid
Level: 8
Posts: 0

good idea for next reset :D but if ur gonna make rebirth u should increase ur mana and adding 2% skill rate or if u want u can do Mounts I mean if u make 1 rebirth u will get 1 mount so u should create like 5 mounts and every time you make a rebirth you get a mount :D

February 3, 2016, 9:22 pm
Administrator
Join Date: Oct. 2011
Profession: Druid
Level: 200
Guild: Leader of Noxious Staff
Posts: 968

We have no plans for a reset. This is an 8.6 server and we can't have mounts on this version of the tibia client. We don't have any plans to update to a different client.

If this idea is not something we can add without a reset then there is no reason to discuss it further. I don't see why we would need a reset to add a rebirth system. When players have leveled up multiple characters to a high level and are running out of things to do is when we need a rebirth system. We don't need one when everybody is level 150 and still training.

GOD Deviance - support@noxiousot.com
February 3, 2016, 10:47 pm
Guest
Ident: D02BC490B383

That voodoo Idea sounds good.

It's just ive levelled 5 chars over 300, Im in top 10 ml and ehbuse is in top 20. Like there's not much else to do really, quests aren't fun but rather annoying, go pking and get swarmed with low levels who'll jump you just for that exp.

How about one of three ways:

Rebirthing gets you the added dmg or hp like stated (1-2%) but you have to sacrifice something along with your level in return, say 10-20% of your vocational skills along with your level.

OR

You rebirth at the cost of your level for a 3-5% increase in power or hp but there is only a 10% chance of that happening, so you basically risk your high level + 5% skills for a 1/10 chance of being reincarnated as more powerful (just like orbing)

OR

Rebirth for special points which can be redeemed for OP items:

20 points = x item (1 rebirth will get you 4 points)

Getting level 350 x5 will be a pretty grueling task for most people and will take a LONG time so if someones that desperate to farm characters and all that effort for 1 item then let them cause it will take AGES.

February 3, 2016, 11:58 pm
Rat
Join Date: Apr. 2015
Profession: Druid
Level: 8
Posts: 0

U guys dnt have a plan to reset? Damn u guys know whats going on in noxious . @deviance u know that the server is dead there isn't aNY team on ,every body is like retired cuz nox is dead. Just noob ppl is playing it and u know it. I bet u bro if u make a reset it will be amazing cuz every body will come back I'm pretty sure of that. Tbh noxious is sad rn. I'm just saying u guys should think about it. :D

February 4, 2016, 7:18 am
Guest
Ident: 8861B7D27613

Hi Deviance, so like you have stated you will not be entertaining the thought of a reset, which I think is needed but so be it. Now that is out the way, do you have any plans to maybe bring the population of Nox back? I mean I know you can't continue to run an OT without any donations(compensated for your time put in) and from what I see from the population now you're receiving none. Keep it real with us your OT is dead and you need a reset, or listen to some of the suggestions people are inputting because majority of them you aren't even willing to be open too.

//This whole rebirth system I think is a good idea and too all the people complaining its hard to take level 350 you're just lazy and want everything too come easy.

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